Q:I've read through your blog a bit and I'm just gonna say that I can't agree with you more on religion. All of these things I've said and tried to prove to my jw ex boyfriend. It was so frustrating. He's brainwashed. I'm glad someone thinks like me.
I mean, that’s how people are brought up to view the world. Just like some people are brought up to think about the world scientifically, some people use religion. Of course, this sometimes leads people to do dumb shit, but you can’t really say to someone “your worldview is wrong,” because most of the time they’ll just say the same thing back to you. Sometimes you just have to accept that people are different and move on.
I think if people took the time to appreciate the fact that others look at the world differently instead of in terms of “right” or “wrong,” we’d be able to understand one another better.
Anyway, thanks for reading. Stay skeptical!
An increasingly undeniable FACT is that abject HATE for Christianity is on the rise in America. That is not to say that Christians are persecuted, it is to say that they are hated. Persecution, lest we remain vigilant, follows after.
And yes, you CAN persecute a majority. How many times do we see it argued that the super rich are persecuting the rest of us?
It must be true because you said it, right? You feel one way and, certainly, your experience as an instigator and a troll have in no way tainted your experience, right? Your anecdotal evidence [actual anecdote not even included] proves that hate against Christians is on the rise. You don’t need to define “hate” or quantify “the rise” it just IS, right?
I’m pretty sure that only assholes write words like FACT and HATE in all caps like that.
Also, in which OP egregiously underestimates what constitutes “hate” in this country.
PTBGF Going Forward
As many of you are aware, this blog is essentially no longer being maintained. This is partly due to my time being overwhelmingly being demanded by academic and other professional pursuits. However it’s more due to the effective death of the atheist community on Tumblr. As such, I no longer have any plans to regularly update this blog.
That being said, if I find anything worth reblogging, I will do so here. I will also leave the ask and submission boxes open if anyone would like to chat or submit a post they’ve found (with source, of course!).
This doesn’t mean I have withdrawn entirely from Tumblr. I still maintain my personal blog, and the-minecraft-blog, so feel free to follow me on both of those blogs! On my personal blog, I tend to post mostly gaming (including game reviews), anime, landscape and architecture, and funny stuff.
Pope Francis is reaching out to Atheists to unite with all religions to work towards peace. How about reaching out to your own followers? There’s more of them and religion has caused much more warfare than Atheism ever has.
Support this. Please, I’m begging you.
I mean, you do realize that more people died during the 20th Century in wars started by atheists regimes than in any so-called Church supported wars in the previous 2000 years, right?
Actual, real historcal fact is not on your side. Stick to posting animals.
You do realize that wild-earth isn’t committing association fallacy; you are though. Stalin and Mao didn’t murder millions because they were atheists; if you want to blame something, blame their ideologies. Why was Stalin so opposed to the church? Because he was an atheist? No; because he recognized that a religion like Christianity exercises considerable clout and thus, to monopolize power, he saw it as necessary to oppose the church.
Holy wars were in the name of this or that god—Yahweh and Allah in particular. When the Arabs expanded their empire, they did it in the name of Allah—in the name of an obscure monotheism that eventually became Islam.
I am aware that you’re a Catholic though; you need look no further than the OT to see bloodshed in the name of Yahweh. The Dark Ages did happen; the Crusades did happen; the Inquisition did happen; the Salem Witch Trials did happen. The Inquisition was so bad that even new converts to Christianity were killed! They were called New Christians or conversos; they were accused of secretly remaining Jews or Muslims though professing to be Christians. This and a lot more was done in the name of Christianity.
What Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot did was for the sake of politics, maintenance of power, and especially in Stalin’s case sheer paranoia. The man sent men to another continent (North America to be exact; Mexico to be even more precise) to assassinate someone he suspected of attempting to impose his influence in the Soviet Union. That man was one Leon Trotsky. An article over at The Examiner called Stalin a religious opportunist; this is true because he eventually reinstituted the Orthodox Church to gain support.
The article also hits the nail on the head when concerning Pol Pot. He wasn’t an atheist like I am an atheist. Though he didn’t believe in gods, he was a Theravada Buddhist. Theravada Buddhists are involved in religious conflict in Burma; why not attribute their crimes to atheism? Because you obviously recognize that they’re not atheists and thus, acknowledge that an atheist is more than just a nonbeliever in gods. It follows that Buddhists aren’t atheists. Mao Zedong was raised Buddhist; he eventually embraced Leninism. So if you want to blame some ideology for Mao’s and Stalin’s crimes, you have to blame Marxism-Leninism.
Ultimately, I’m glad Pope Francis is taking a modern approach. However, wild-earth is correct in his point (though I would have justified it differently); in other words, I wouldn’t have pointed to holy wars to make my case. I would simply point to religiously motivated oppression. For instance, if the Pope wants more peace, he should address anti-gay Catholics; he should address anti-choicers who are attempting to limit women’s rights; he should address Catholics like some Tumblr Catholics, who aren’t trying to find common ground with atheists, but rather provoking us at every turn.
So take your own advice. Historical facts aren’t on your side. Stick to posting Catholicism and leave history to enthusiasts like myself.
Q:it has to do with how you said in your previous answer that christianity "hates women". this is simply not true. xD that's all.
I didn’t answer that question. iranianatheist is the original poster of that ask. If you have an issue with it, take it up with them. Good day.
Q:Christianity does not "hate women". The Scripture says that all people are made in the image of God and nowhere in Scripture is there a concept of "women are pointless so go hate women".
Ok that’s nice. What does this have to do with anything.
Q:It's cool to dislike organized religion, but you can't make claims like "islam hates women" and such. one, because they're not true. and two, because you sound v v v ignorant my friend. v ignorant. yuck. vomit.
Before you go any further with the name calling and tell me what I can or cannot do, we should probably look at some facts. I claimed that Islam, just like Christianity, hates women. I stand by this statement and I will tell you why since apparently I am very ignorant to you for having devoted a big portion of my life to studying the religion out of personal interest, for having lived in Muslim countries, and deciding to share my experience from it all.
The amount of sexism and misogyny in the Quran and the Hadith is endless, but I can focus on a few parts just to clarify why I say Islam hates women. I ask you to read this with an open mind, not the brainwashed mentality that says, “I must defend Islam no matter what”.
As you are aware, Muslims are told that Muhammad’s ways in life should be the standard for all good Muslims!
The Islamic Hadith states that Aisha was married to Muhammad at the age of 6, and the marriage was consummated when she was 9, while Muhammad was 53, in Medina. All the Hadiths agree on this, with the exception of al-Tabari, which states that she was 10 at the time, like that makes a difference!
Reference from the Hadith: Sahih Bukhari Book 58, Number 236 states, “Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.”
Many Muslims who deny the authenticity of this Hadith, even though it recorded in all Islamic teachings, keep in mind that the rest of this book contains the material that defines the religion of Islam, and this is why both of my grandmothers were married to men in their 30s when they hadn’t even reached the age of 13.
But some “moderate” apologists argue that the Hadith should not be considered; only the Quran applies, even though the religion of Islam exists because of the Hadith since it contains many laws and customs that make up the religion. It’s sort of like the pathetic Christian argument that the Old Testament doesn’t apply even though without the Old Testament their entire religion ceases to exist. Regardless, the Quran has its own fair share of hatred and disrespect for women. When you read the Quran, Allah is constantly speaking to MEN, telling MEN how to treat WOMEN, how handle women, and even instructions on how to beat women. Women are not the focus; they are well below men or even worse they are just objects. This is really no different than the Bible. In the Quran Allah considers women to be like a dirty field and says men should come forward with their penises to plow the field. It even says that your wives are a place of sowing of seed for you. This goes beyond objectifying women, it’s absolutely sickening to think of women this way, like they’re tools that god created for pleasing men. Reference for this: Quran 2:223.
But that’s not where it ends, the Quran tells us that men are a degree higher than women, and in cases of divorce the husband has more rights to take them back (Reference for this: Quran 2:228). And of course who can forget the justification of polygamy, which only for men. Men can have up to 4 wives, but what about women? Well from an Islamic point of view, that doesn’t really matter (Reference for this: Quran 4:3)
Well what about inheritance, maybe the Quran will give women a break here, but no as the Quran tells us men inherit twice that of females. Allah seems to think of men as being better and more important than women; if he hadn’t made it clear by now he also wants to make sure we know that men are twice as important when it comes to inheritance (Reference for this: Quran 4:11). And well what about illegal sexual activities, surely women and men should be equal when it comes to being punished for an imaginary crime like this, but no punishment ONLY for women who commit illegal sexual activities is life in house confinement (Reference for this: Quran 4:15). As you read through the Quran you notice more and more that women are like objects in Islam and the Quran tells us that if you get tired of one there are instructions on how to replace her (Reference for this: Quran 4:20). There is absolutely no question about it, in the Quran we are told that men are in charge of women and they can beat women if the woman does not obey them (Reference for this: Quran 4:34). But what about the poor women, what if their husbands disobey them? Well nothing has been said in the Quran about this because clearly from Islamic point of view that does not matter!
If it was not clear enough the Quran reiterates again and again that a male receives twice the share of females (Reference for this: Quran 4:176)
We can go further into the whole concept of hijab, and how the Quran says Muslim women must reduce their vision and cover themselves (Reference for this: Quran 24:31, Quran 33:59). But of course this is because men can’t control themselves, what about women? Don’t they have a sex drive as well? Not according to Islam if you read the Quran carefully. If instructions for divorcing your wife were not bad enough, the Quran also gives instructions on how to divorce the kids you married, which ties into the Hadith about Muhammad marrying Aisha when she was only 6. This is a passage discussing how a man should divorce the woman he no longer wants, then it just starts talking about cases where the wife has not reached puberty yet. (Reference for this: Quran 65:4)
I haven’t even talked about how women have been treated in Muslim countries; I’ve only discussed the actual religion. I could go on and on, but before I do, let me guess, I am taking it out of context? Do you realize that religions only exist because passages are taken out of context and applied to today’s world? Besides, under what context is any of this garbage acceptable?!! Please do yourself a favour and do a bit of research next time.
- The Iranian Atheist (http://iranianatheist.tumblr.com/)
I really don’t mind being called an ‘islamophobe’ or whatever.
Q:how can someone become rich
You can’t. You have to be born rich.
It’s funny when atheists say they’re atheist because they don’t want to blindly follow a group of people and their beliefs. Wanna know why it’s funny? Atheists are a group of people with the belief that there’s nothing to believe in. Group of people. Blindly following. Their beliefs.
Atheists are not a group, nor do they believe there “is nothing to believe in.” Atheists follow no unified (or even fractured) dogma, creeds or dictates. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and you embarrass yourself with this sloppy comment.
Don’t you just love it when theists posit fucking Strawman arguments? And then even get those about as wrong as can be? ppfftt
Who’s to Blame?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable…
There are thousands of different opinions on exactly how to live “the way God intended”. If the Bible looked like something that maybe a god would write, as opposed to instead looking like the something that was written by dozens of different Iron Age disagreeing story tellers, then there might be less atheists.